1925 Detroit Panthers season

National Football League team season March 2026 November 2013 Detroit Panthers (NFL) Detroit Panthers Conzelman-Jimmy-1925.jpg Owner Jimmy Conzelman in 1925 1925 8–2–2 3rd NFL Jimmy Conzelman Jimmy Conzelman Navin Field 1921 (Tigers) 1926 Detroit Panthers seasons The 1925 Detroit Panthers season marked the team's debut in the National Football League (NFL), following a four year hiatus after the termination of the league's first Motor City franchise, the Detroit Tigers. The team played 11 of their 12 games at home at Navin Field, later known as Tiger Stadium, finishing with a record of 8 wins, 2 losses, and 2 ties.1925 Detroit Panthers The Panthers' record was good enough for a third place finish in the league. The Panthers played in the first Wednesday game in NFL history against the Cleveland Bulldogs, and won 22–13. Future Pro Football Hall of Famer Jimmy Conzelman scored two touchdowns in the first quarter.http://www.profootballhof.com/history/infographic-wednesday.aspx Infographic: NFL on Wednesday Profootballhof.com February 7, 2010 September 6, 2012 October 4, 2013 https://web.archive.org/web/20131004224749/http://www.profootballhof.com/history/infographic-wednesday.aspx dead Background Organization The Detroit Heralds (renamed the Detroit Tigers in 1921) were an original member of the American Professional Football Association (APFY), forerunner of the National Football League (NFL). Amidst financial losses ensuing from poor attendance and cancellations, the team ceased operations after the 1921 season, leaving a major franchise vacancy in a major city of the upper Middle West. NFL President Joe F. Carr, oriented towards placing league teams in large cities rather than smaller communities, anxiously sought a return of an NFL franchise to the Motor City.Chris Willis, Joe F. Carr: The Man Who Built the National Football League. Lanham, MD: Scarecrow Press, 2010; p. 182. A suitor was found at last ahead of the 1925 season, when star quarterback Jimmy Conzelman, formerly of the Chicago Staleys, before becoming player-coach of the Rock Island Independents and later the Milwaukee Badgers.Bob Curran, Pro Football's Rag Days. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, 1969; pp. 48–53. In March 1925, Carr made Conzelman a sweetheart deal to gain his commitment,"Conzelman Gets Detroit Club of Pro Grid League," Chicago Tribune, March 8, 1925, p. 28. reducing the league's franchise fee from $1,000 to just $50 to get the crafty back on board. After arriving in Detroit, Conzelman made plans to combine football with show business, getting some local theatrical agents interested in underwriting the team in connection a plan to bring the popular Four Horsemen of Notre Dame to play for the Panthers — making it worth everyone's while by combining the NFL season with a 22-week vaudeville tour before and after. Harry Stuhldreher could sing and Jim Crowley could deliver an entertaining monologue and clog dance, but Don Miller and Elmer Layden had no marketable entertainment skills and Conzelman's outside-the-box scheme ultimately came to nothing. Conzelman scrambled to find other financial backers capable of funding the team through the ups and downs of an NFL season. He ultimately made use of several of his Chicago connections, bringing on board judge (and later governor) Henry Horner, Cook County sheriff Joe Carr, Chicago city alderman Joe McDonough, and a fan named Frankie Lyons as investors. Conzelman made arrangements to rent Navin Field (home of the American League's Detroit Tigers) at the rate of $1,000 per game.Howard Roberts, The Story of Pro Football. New York: Rand McNally & Co., 1953; p. 123. Season review When news broke that college football superstar Red Grange had signed with the Chicago Bears for the second half of the 1925 season, Conzelman made use of his connections with team owner George Halas to book an extra Bears game in Detroit. Fans were excited and the ticket pre-sale indicated that the Panthers stood to clear $20,000 profit on the game, enough to wipe out the team's accrued debt for the year. Unfortunately, the Wednesday before the lucrative December 12 date, Halas telephoned Conzelman to tell him that Grange had been injured and was not expected to play. Conzelman felt honor-bound to make the news available to the press, which spurred a massive rush for refunds, eliminating the possibility of 11th-hour financial salvation. Despite losing money in 1925, the Panthers managed to field a team for one more year, before being forced from the field by a flood of red ink after the 1926 season. Conzelman surrendered the Detroit franchise back to the league for $1,200.Bill Schubert, "Jimmy Conzelman," https://web.archive.org/web/20220617033219/http://profootballresearchers.org/archives/Website_Files/Coffin_Corner/19-01-689.pdf June 17, 2022 The Coffin Corner, vol. 19, no. 1 (1997). Schedule Game Date Opponent Result Record Venue Attendance Recap Sources 1 September 27 Columbus Tigers W 7–0 1–0 Navin Field 3,500 Recap 2 October 4 Chicago Bears T 0–0 1–0–1 Navin Field 3,342 Recap 3 October 11 Frankford Yellow Jackets W 3–0 2–0–1 Navin Field 3,400 Recap 4 October 18 Dayton Triangles W 6–0 3–0–1 Navin Field 4,132 Recap 5 October 25 Akron Pros T 0–0 3–0–2 Navin Field 5,400 Recap 6 November 1 Hammond Pros W 26–6 4–0–2 Navin Field Recap "Panthers Keep Place in Lead: Detroit Gives First Evidence of Offensive Power by Defeating Hammond, 26 to 6," Detroit Free Press, Nov. 2, 1925, pp. 16–17."Panthers Lead Pro Grid League," Flint Journal, Nov. 2, 1925, p. 13. 7 November 8 Milwaukee Badgers W 21–0 5–0–2 Navin Field Recap 8 November 11 Cleveland Bulldogs W 22–13 6–0–2 Navin Field Recap 9 November 15 at Chicago Bears L 0–14 6–1–2 Wrigley Field 6,200 Recap 10 November 22 Rochester Jeffersons W 20–0 7–1–2 Navin Field Recap 11 November 26 Rock Island Independents L 3–6 7–2–2 Navin Field 5,000 Recap "Independents Defeat Detroit Panthers, 6–3: Lamb Drives Over Goal for Touchdown in Last Quarter of Close Game," Rock Island Argus, Nov. 27, 1925, pp. 1, 10."Rock Island Defeats Detroit (Panthers), 6–3; Roddy Lamb is Star," Davenport Daily Times, Nov. 26, 1925, pp. 1, 15. 12 December 12 Chicago Bears W 21–0 8–2–2 Navin Field 4,111 In his memoir published by Bob Curran in his book, Pro Football's Rag Days, written more than four decades after the fact, Conzelman recalls the size of this crowd as 4,500. Pro Football Reference has this crowd at 6,000, although contemporary news accounts provide an exact paid gate of 4,111. Recap Associated Press, "Bears Harmless: Grange Has Bad Arm, Team Losing Again," Butte Miner, Dec. 13, 1925, p. 26. Note: November 11: Wednesday, Armistice Day. Thanksgiving Day: November 26. Standings Roster Bill Bucher, end, 1 game, 180 pounds, 5-10, Clarkson Jimmy Conzelman, tailback, 12 games, 175 pounds, 6-0, Washington (MO) Al Crook, center, 8 games, 190 pounds, 5-10, Washington & Jefferson Dinger Doane, fullback, 11 games, 190 pounds, 5-10, Tufts Walt Ellis, tackle, 1 game, 224 pounds, 5-11, Univ. of Detroit Jack Fleischman, guard, 9 games, 184 pounds, 5-6, Purdue Al Hadden, back, 12 games, 186 pounds, 5-9, Washington & Jefferson Tom Hogan, tackle, 11 games, 193 pounds, 6-2, Univ. of Detroit, Fordham Vivian Hultman, end, 11 games, 178 pounds, 5-8, Michigan St. Dutch Lauer, tailback, 11 games, 185 pounds, 5-10, Univ. of Detroit Dutch Marion, fullback, 10 games, 180 pounds, 5-9, Washington & Jefferson, Michigan Tom McNamara, guard, 12 games, 210 pounds, 5-10, Tufts, Univ. of Detroit Russ Smith, guard, 9 games, 220 pounds, 5-10, Navy, Southern Illinois, Illinois Gus Sonnenberg, tackle, 12 games, 196 pounds, 5-6, Dartmouth, Univ. of Detroit Dick Vick, back, 11 games, 167 pounds, 5-9, Washington & Jefferson Ernie Vick, center, 10 games, 190 pounds, 5-10, Michigan Tillie Voss, end, 10 games, 207 pounds, 6-3, Univ. of Detroit By Wimberly, tackle, 11 games, 200 pounds, 6-2, Washington & Jefferson References 35em Category:Detroit Panthers seasons Detroit Panthers Detroit Panthers