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...(And That's No Lie)
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November 2025
...(And That's No Lie) Heaven-17-and-thats-no-lie-single.jpg single Heaven 17 How Men Are The Fuse 7 January 1985 * Synth-pop
new wave 3:25 Virgin * Glenn Gregory
Ian Craig Marsh
Martyn Ware * Martyn Ware
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"...(And That's No Lie)" is a song by the English synth-pop band Heaven 17, released on 7 January 1985 by Virgin Records as the third single from their third studio album, How Men Are (1984).New Singles Music Week 5 January 1985 8 0265-1548 The song was written by Glenn Gregory, Ian Craig Marsh and Martyn Ware, and produced by Ware and Greg Walsh. It reached number 52 in the UK singles chart and remained in the top 100 for five weeks.http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/18889/heaven-17/ officialcharts.com HEAVEN 17 | full Official Chart History | Official Charts Company 9 November 2016 A music video was filmed to promote the single.
In the UK, the 12-inch single was issued in five different sleeves.http://www.discogs.com/Heaven-17-And-Thats-No-Lie/release/2127641 Heaven 17 - ...(And That's No Lie) (Vinyl) at Discogs Discogs 12 August 2011 https://web.archive.org/web/20121111095121/http://www.discogs.com/Heaven-17-And-Thats-No-Lie/release/2127641 11 November 2012 live All track listings were the same, except on the fifth and final 12-inch variation, which contains the exclusive "The Heaven 17 Megamix". It features extracts of "This Is Mine", "Crushed by the Wheels of Industry", "The Height of the Fighting (He-La-Hu)", "Penthouse and Pavement", "Temptation", "I'm Your Money" and "Play to Win".
Critical reception
On its release as a single, Martin Townsend of Number One picked "...(And That's No Lie)" as joint "single of the week" and predicted it would be a minor hit. He considered it to be "a densely melodic 7-inch and a truly awesome ten-minute ride on the 12-inch".Townsend Martin 12 January 1985 Singles Number One 36 Mike Gardiner of Record Mirror felt it was "another disappointing release from a group who should know better". He compared the song to "looking at a construction site" which is "messy, noisy, a lot of activity but the building's only half complete".Gardiner Mike 12 January 1985 Singles Record Mirror 6 Danny Kelly of NME commented, "This highlights the oft forgotten melodic strengths of Heaven 17 but are we really expected to get excited about a three minute edit from a ten minute track, the fourth A side from a non too thrilling LP?" He questioned how successful the single would be in the charts, but noted the "nice sleeve".Kelly Danny 12 January 1985 Singles NME 16
DJ Mark Hollis, writing for the Daily Mirror stated, "Heaven 17 disappointed me with this on first hearing. Maybe a few plays will change that."Hollis Mark 7 January 1985 Mark Hollis's Top Tips Daily Mirror 7 Frank Edmonds of the Bury Free Press gave the song a 5 out of 10 rating and wrote, "After two great singles this is pretty damn boring."Edmonds Frank 18 January 1985 Soundscene Bury Free Press 10 In a retrospective review of How Men Are, Aaron Badgley of AllMusic picked the song as a "highlight", describing it as "very long but very wonderful". He noted the "strong melody", "stunning vocals" and "tight production".Badgley Aaron Aaron Badgley https://www.allmusic.com/album/how-men-are-mw0000742447 How Men Are - Heaven 17 AllMusic 4 June 2022
Formats and track listings
7-inch single
"...(And That's No Lie)" – 3:25
"The Fuse" – 3:53
12-inch single
"...(And That's No Lie)" (Re-mixed to Enhance its Danceability) – 6:10
"The Fuse" (LP version) – 3:05
"...(And That's No Lie)" (LP version) – 10:02
12-inch single (UK 5/5 release)
"...(And That's No Lie)" (Re-mixed to Enhance its Danceability) – 6:10
"The Fuse" (LP version) – 3:05
"The Heaven 17 Megamix" – 8:28
Personnel
Credits sourced from the original album liner notes.
Heaven 17
Glenn Gregory – lead and backing vocals
Martyn Ware – LinnDrum programming, backing vocals, producer
Ian Craig Marsh – Fairlight CMI synthesizer
Additional personnel
Greg Walsh – producer
Nick Plytas – piano
Ray Russell – guitars
John Wilson – bass guitar
David Cullen – orchestral arrangements and conductor
Afrodiziak – backing vocals
Sanny X – remixer of "The Heaven 17 Megamix"
Charts
Chart (1985) Peakposition Irish Singles ChartJaclyn Ward https://www.irma.ie/irish-charts/ The Irish Charts - All there is to know Irishcharts.ie 12 August 2011 https://web.archive.org/web/20100126040745/http://www.irishcharts.ie/ 26 January 2010 live 22 UK singles chart 52
References
External links
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Category:1984 songs
Category:1985 singles
Category:Heaven 17 songs
Category:Songs written by Martyn Ware
Category:Songs written by Glenn Gregory
Category:Songs written by Ian Craig Marsh
Category:Virgin Records singles