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South Korean melodic punk band
...Whatever That Means Whatever-that-means-jeff-moses-trash-daehanmindecline.jpg Seoul punk band ...Whatever That Means perform in Thunderhorse Tavern on 28 May 2016. Seoul, South Korea Punk rock 2009–present World Domination, Inc. Jeff MosesTrash Yang MosesBialyWoojoon group_or_band
...Whatever That Means is a South Korean melodic punk band based in Seoul, South Korea. Alternative Press called them the "pop-punk face of the Korean music scene."Hunt Nikki ...Whatever That Means 281 Alternative Press December 2011 The two key members are married couple Jeff and Trash. Both are promoters who have organized concerts and brought foreign bands to Korea. They organize annual Halloween shows and previously managed the monthly 2nd Saturdays concert series.Redmond John '2nd Saturdays' concert to kick off Saturday https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2018/03/177_221786.html 27 June 2018 The Korea Times 10 January 2017 They have been associated closely with the venues Club Spot, Ruailrock, Club SHARP, and Thunderhorse Tavern.
They run Thunderhorse Studios with Thunderhorse Tavern ex-owner Kirk Kwon. They featured prominently in the 2014 documentary Us and Them: Korean Indie Rock in a K-Pop World.Epstein Stephen Us and Them: Korean Indie Rock in a K-Pop World https://apjjf.org/-Stephen-Epstein/4401 The Asia-Pacific Journal 30 November 2015 27 June 2018 They also appear in Ken Robinson's documentary film Ash.Twitch Jon "Ash" Versus the Evil http://www.daehanmindecline.com/broke/broke24.pdf 27 June 2018 Broke in Korea 2017 Their influences include Gob, Face to Face, Descendents/ALL, Bad Religion, Social Distortion, and The Ataris.
Origins
Jeff and Trash got married in Seoul on February 28, 2009. After, they had a concert at Club Spot. Jeff had wanted to perform, but didn't have a band or a name yet, so the poster was designed by artist and original guitarist Ric Comly, to say "Jeff ...whatever that means."Twitch Jon Married to the Band http://daehanmindecline.com/broke/broke10.pdf 27 June 2018 Broke in Korea 10 2009 19 June 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20160619220423/http://daehanmindecline.com/broke/broke10.pdf dead Trash later joined the band as bassist and they continued performing as ...Whatever That Means.
The Purge Movement
In 2010, ...Whatever That Means formed a coalition with other notable Korean punk bands Rux and the Swindlers to create the Purge Movement, aimed at fighting gentrification in the Hongdae area. Referencing purging of gentrifying factors in the area including repetitive, uncreative street performers,Dunbar Jon Hongdae Playground through ages https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/opinion/2017/09/197_236365.html 27 June 2018 The Korea Times 12 September 2017 they organized concerts in Hongdae Playground. They also intended to raise awareness of non-mainstream music and support live music venues rather than compete with them by getting more people interested.Twitch Jon Purging in the Park http://daehanmindecline.com/broke/broke11.pdf 27 June 2018 11 Broke in Korea December 2010 20 June 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20160620044517/http://daehanmindecline.com/broke/broke11.pdf dead
World Domination, Inc.
The band toured the US in 2011 and 2016, using their label World Domination, Inc. to promote culture of Korea and its punk scene abroad.Oliver Jaiden Seoul Punks ...Whatever That Means Embark on Stateside Tour http://groovekorea.com/article/seoul-punks-whatever-means-embark-stateside-tour/ 27 June 2018 Groove Magazine 21 July 2016 1 August 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20160801011821/http://groovekorea.com/article/seoul-punks-whatever-means-embark-stateside-tour/ dead The 2011 tour was a precursor to a hiatus, while Jeff earned a master's degree in Pennsylvania.Dunbar Jon Stephen Epstein: Korea's indie rock scholar http://www.korea.net/NewsFocus/People/view?articleId=105795 27 June 2018 Korean Culture and Information Service Korea.net 22 February 2013 17 September 2014 https://web.archive.org/web/20140917071643/http://www.korea.net/NewsFocus/People/view?articleId=105795 dead
For both tours, they released compilations titled "Them and Us."Osborne Graham Punk rock at crossroads in South Korea http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/n_feature/2011/11/01/5/4901000000AEN20111101008500315F.HTML 27 June 2018 Yonhap News Agency 9 November 2011
The first compilation was recorded on the stage at Club Spot, and the second was made in Thunderhorse Studios.Oliver Jaiden '...Whatever That Means' Playing Seoul Gigs Before American Tour https://www.10mag.com/whatever-means-playing-seoul-gigs-american-tour/ 27 June 2018 10 Magazine 29 June 2016 Both compilations contain around 10 bands performing an original song and a cover from a bigger band, a strategy to encourage US listeners to give unknown bands a try. They were given out for free on tourDunbar Jon Korea's punks launch world domination plan https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2018/06/177_208690.html 27 June 2018 The Korea Times 5 July 2016 Moses also helped fellow Korean bands Full Garage and Skasucks tour the west coast US.Dunbar Jon Korean ska-punk band performs in US cities https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2017/07/177_233223.html 27 June 2018 The Korea Times 18 July 2017
From the tour, they made contact with US punk band Burn Burn Burn, recording a split album together. Burn Burn Burn came to Korea for a tour managed by World Domination, Inc.Dunbar Jon US punk band to burn through Seoul, Busan https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2018/06/177_236381.html 27 June 2018 The Korea Times 12 September 2017
...Whatever That Means toured Malaysia and Singapore in early 2015,Redmond John Local band to perform in Singapore, Malaysia https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2018/04/177_171664.html 27 June 2018 The Korea Times 13 January 2015 where they made connections with the local music scenes, facilitating exchanges and bringing bands to Korea, starting with Iman's League.Dunbar Jon Singapore punks Iman's League will tour Korea https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2017/06/177_192218.html 27 June 2018 The Korea Times 1 December 2015
On August 1, 2019, the label released "World Domination Vol.1, a four-song compilation of bands from four countries. The four bands are skatepunk band Sidecar from Busan, emotive punk band Social Circuit from Malaysia, power punk band Mable's Marbles from the U.S. and dirty rock 'n' roll band DFMK from Mexico.Moses Jeff New WDI International Compilation Series https://www.wdikorea.com/7-25-new-wdi-compilation 31 August 2019 25 July 2019 Hints were given that the second volume in the series would feature ska.Dunbar Jon World Domination album connects east, west https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2019/08/177_274207.html 31 August 2019 The Korea Times 20 August 2019
IT'S A FEST!
In celebration of the 10th anniversary of the label and band, as well as the marriage of Jeff and Trash, WDI announced a free two-day underground music festival to be held June 15 and 16, 2019, at Hanagae Beach on Muuido, and introduced a crowdfunding campaign on Tumblbug to support the festival.Korea Launches FREE Punk Rock Festival – It's A Fest! https://uniteasia.org/korea-launches-free-punk-rock-festival-fest/ 24 February 2019 Unite Asia 19 February 2019Dunbar Jon Local punk band introduces big plans for 10th anniversary https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2019/02/177_263982.html 24 February 2019 The Korea Times 19 February 2019Moses Jeff ko:바다캠핑음악-무의도 락 페스티벌 IT'S A FEST! https://www.tumblbug.com/itsafest Tumblbug 24 February 2019Dunbar Jon Beach punk festival takes over Muui Island https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2019/06/177_270145.html 31 August 2019 The Korea Times 11 June 2019
The lineup included Galaxy Express, Drinking Boys and Girls Choir, 57, Green Flame Boys, Talkbats, Burning Hepburn, A'Z Bus, Gumiho, Winning Shot, Drive Shower, Smoking Goose, Shin Hantae & Reggae Soul, Romantiqua, Sidecar, Lazybone, and WTM. Foreign acts include Singapore's Iman's League, China's The Sino Hearts, and Malaysia's Half-Asleep.Moses Jeff IT'S A FEST! Announces Full 2019 Schedule https://www.wdikorea.com/5-19-iaf-full-lineup 1 September 2019 29 May 2019
The second year of the festival was scheduled for June 20 and 21, 2020 but needed to be cancelled due to the COVID-19 global pandemic. The cancelled lineup included foreign bands Green Eyed Monster and Akabane Vulgars on Strong Bypass, both from Japan, and Social Circuit from Malaysia. Local bands included Crying Nut, Galaxy Express, No.1 Korean, National Pigeon Unity, Burning Hepburn, ...Whatever That Means, Chain Reaction, Daddy O Radio, Shin Hantae & Reggae Soul, Ultralazy, Winningshot, Gumiho, Jonny'spark, BEACON, and 444.Moses Jeff IT'S A FEST! 2020 https://www.wdikorea.com/itsafest 18 March 2020 WDI KoreaKorean Punk Festival IT'S A FEST! Back for 2020 https://uniteasia.org/korean-punk-festival-fest-back-2020/ 18 March 2020 24 February 2020
Post-Pandemic, IT'S A FEST! returned to Muuido in June 2023. Like 2019, the main festival ran all day on Saturday and Sunday. The lineup included 19 punk, ska, and hardcore bands from Korea, Japan, Singapore, and France. The festival also expanded to include an acoustic night on the beach on Friday night to work as a soft opening for the fest. IT'S A FEST! will be returning as a yearly festival at Hanagae Beach on Muuido.
Recording Studios
Jeff and Trash were involved in Thunderhorse Studios, co-owned with Kirk Kwon who owned the former venue Thunderhorse Tavern.P Chris Interview with ...Whatever That Means https://www.koreanindie.com/2016/07/05/interview-with-whatever-that-means-2/ 27 June 2018 Korean Indie 5 July 2016 On August 19, 2019, Thunderhorse Studios announced its closing at the end of September.Kwon Kirk https://www.facebook.com/ThunderhorseStudios/posts/2290295524431605 Thunderhorse Studios Facebook 31 August 2019 Since then, Jeff has opened his own recording studio named Binary Studios. Binary Studios originally began as a home studio, but in 2022 Jeff opened Binary Studios in its new location in the Mangwon neighborhood in Seoul. Binary Studios has worked with many bands from the Korean scene such as Green Flame Boys, Beacon, WinningShot, Monkey Gang War, Sweet Gasoline, and more. The studio has also engineered and produced albums for Iman's League from Singapore.
SHARP Ink and Rebellion Ink
Trash was a tattooist at SHARP Ink in Mangwon-dong, run by Ryu Jinsuk of Skasucks. She tattooed "Jeff sucks" on a member of Burn Burn Burn after receiving a donation from punk zine Broke in Korea.Moses Trash https://www.instagram.com/p/BZphO6OBP9a/ https://ghostarchive.org/iarchive/s/instagram/BZphO6OBP9a 2021-12-26 registration Instagram Jeff Sucks 27 June 2018 In November 2019 she opened her own tattoo shop, Rebellion Ink.
Members
Jeff Moses – guitar, vocals
Trash Yang Moses – bass, vocals
Bialy – guitar, vocals
HwangYong - drums
Past members
Ric Comly – pretend lead guitarist
Alex Kyllo - lead guitar
Hong9 – drums
Mizno – drums
5baeng – lead guitar
Woojoon - drums
Gwangya – drums
Discography
The Newest Hope (2010)
Sounds from the Explosion (2011)
Them and Us: Korea's Punks at Club Spot (2011)
Honggu Goes To Prison – cover song EP (2013)
Sixty-Eight, Twenty-Two (2014)
Asian Prodigy single – Chinkees cover (2014)
Them and Us 2: Korea's Punks at Thunderhorse Studios (2016)
Blowing Minds & Melting Faces – split with Burn Burn Burn (2016)
Revolving Doors (2020)
Them and Us 3: Korea's Punks at Binary Studios (2022)
Singles 2009–2023 (2023)
Split EP with The Skippers (Japan) (2023)
References
External links
...Whatever That Means Facebook page
WDI Korea website
WDI Korea Facebook page
Rebellion Ink Korea Facebook page
Category:South Korean punk rock groups
Category:South Korean indie rock groups
Category:South Korean rock music groups
Category:Musical groups established in 2009
Category:Music festivals established in 2019
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Category:Rock festivals in South Korea
Category:Annual events in South Korea