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Swiss music band April 2021 16-17 16-17 AMSTERDAM.jpg 1.2 Basel, Switzerland Punk jazz, industrial, jazzcore 1983–2000 Pathological, Big Cat, Virgin, Savageland, Digital Hardcore Alex BuessMichael WertmüllerDamian Bennet Knut RemondMarkus KneubühlerDaniel Buess (died 2016)Kevin Martin G. C. Green 16-17 is a band from Basel, Switzerland. Their music combines punk rock, hardcore punk, jazz and industrial music. Biography 16-17 was founded in 1983 by Alex Buess, Knut Remond http://www.cosmicsonline.com/ Knut Remond, composer musician performer artist - Knut Remond cosmicsonline.com 22 June 2016 4 March 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20160304092542/http://www.cosmicsonline.com/ live and Markus Kneubühler. When the group played its first concerts in 1983 it was received with controversial reactions: there were hardly any groups that played in an approximately similar style. Only some years later around 1986 groups like Painkiller, Last Exit or The Flying Luttenbachers appeared . They played a similar mix of rough noise, heavily amplified instruments and free jazz inspired improvisation. 1983 to 1994 the group did a lot of tours and played many gigs all over Europe, Japan and USA. From this period there are three official releases: the cassette Buffbunker and Hardkore, the LP 16-17 (Label Rec Rec) as well as the LP When All Else Fails... (Label Vision/Praxis). These first three productions of the group are exclusively live recordings. 1994 Alex Buess met Kevin Martin during the recording sessions of the group Alboth! for their CD Liebefeld http://www.discogs.com/Alboth-Liebefeld/release/1046529 Alboth! - Liebefeld discogs.com 22 June 2016 27 January 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20160127194759/http://www.discogs.com/Alboth-Liebefeld/release/1046529 live Alex Buess played saxophones on this album as a guest musician and Kevin Martin produced it. This first meeting of Buess and Martin was very important: they both got along very well: they both went similar paths, Kevin with his group GOD and Alex with 16–17. Consequently, 16-17 worked on the production of their first studio album Gyatso.https://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-Gyatso/release/1274376 16-17 - Gyatso discogs.com 22 June 2016 9 April 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20160409072832/https://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-Gyatso/release/1274376 live The album was produced by Kevin Martin and G. C. Green (Godflesh) appeared as a guest musician. Kevin Martin said in an interview by Jason Pettigrew (Alternative Press): "I liked the sheer intensity of 16-17's Early Recordings very much and I intended to increase this intensity by the additional use of studio technology." He was indeed very successful. The CD found a lot of attention in the international press, the media and the audience. After the production of Gyatso the line up of the band changed. The bass player Damian Bennett (Deathless, khost, Techno Animal) replaced Markus Kneubühler and the drummer Michael Wertmüller (Full Blast) replaced Knut Remond. 16-17 toured all over Europe with this new line up. The idea was to reproduce the sound of the Gyatso album live. The concert appearance at the Taktlos Festival 1995 was one of the highlights of 16-17's new sound. 1999 the EP Human Distortion was released on Alec Empire's Digital Hardcore Label (DHR) and in the same year the Mechanophobia EP appeared on Praxishttps://praxis-records.net/ Praxis - Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise praxis-records.net 22 June 2016 30 June 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20160630230814/https://praxis-records.net/ live the Berlin-based label. In autumn 1999 16-17 toured again extensively as 16-17 Soundsystem with Daniel Buesshttp://www.danielbuess.com/ Home - Daniel Buess danielbuess.com 22 June 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20160702224611/http://www.danielbuess.com/ 2 July 2016 usurped (MIR, My Daily Noise, Noise Zone) on drums. In 2000 the group disbanded. It was very difficult to get hold of the 16-17 productions for quite a long time. But in 2005 Savageland Records a Lyon-based French record label re-released a CD box called When All Else Fails... a.k.a. Early Recordings and later in 2008 Gyatso. Weasel Walter has remastered both productions and Jason Pettigrew wrote extensive new liner notes for Gyatso. In 2020, an album of previously unreleased material recorded in 1995, titled Phantom Limb with guest musicians singer Eugene S.Robinson of Oxbow, vocalist Kasia Meow and guitarist Bigrogers Graf, was issued through Austrian label Trost Records. In 2021 the remastered vinyl version of Gyatso was released by the German label Praxis. thumb|Live at Taktlos Festival 1995 Discography 1984: Buffbunker & Hardkore (cassette, Calypso Now) 1986: 16-17https://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-16-17/release/385667 16-17 - 16-17 Discogs 17 July 2016 10 October 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20161010040514/https://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-16-17/release/385667 live (LP, Rec Rec) 1989: When All Else Fails...https://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-When-All-Else-Fails/release/372787?ev=rr 16-17 - When All Else Fails... Discogs 17 July 2016 10 October 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20161010040528/https://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-When-All-Else-Fails/release/372787?ev=rr live (LP, Vision) 1993: Gyatsohttps://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-Gyatso/release/71192 16-17 - Gyatso Discogs 17 July 2016 10 October 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20161010040521/https://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-Gyatso/release/71192 live (CD, Pathological / Big Cat GB) 1993: 16–17 on Virgin Ambient compilation Jazz Satellites Vol 1https://www.discogs.com/de/Various-Jazz-Satellites-Volume-1-Electrification/release/506295 Various - Jazz Satellites Volume 1: Electrification Discogs 25 June 2016 11 October 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20161011214448/https://www.discogs.com/de/Various-Jazz-Satellites-Volume-1-Electrification/release/506295 live 1998: Human Distortionhttps://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-Human-Distortion/release/69338 16-17 - Human Distortion Discogs 17 July 2016 10 October 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20161010040524/https://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-Human-Distortion/release/69338 live (CD & EP, DHR) 1999: Mechanophobiahttps://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-Mechanophobia/master/368157 16-17 - Mechanophobia Discogs 17 July 2016 10 October 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20161010040526/https://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-Mechanophobia/master/368157 live (EP, Praxis) 2005: When All Else Fails... a.k.a. 16-17 Early Recordingshttps://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-16-17-Hardkore-Buffbunker-When-All-Else-Fails/release/1300728 16-17 - 16-17 / Hardkore & Buffbunker / When All Else Fails... Discogs 17 July 2016 10 October 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20161010040512/https://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-16-17-Hardkore-Buffbunker-When-All-Else-Fails/release/1300728 live (CD Box, new, remastered version of the first three LP productions on CD, Savageland Records) 2008: Gyatsohttps://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-Gyatso/release/1274376 16-17 - Gyatso Discogs 22 June 2016 9 April 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20160409072832/https://www.discogs.com/de/16-17-Gyatso/release/1274376 live (CD, new, remastered version with modified artwork and liner notes) 2020: Phantom Limbhttps://www.trost.at/16-17-phantom-limb.html Trost Records listing for Phantom Limb 6 June 2020 6 June 2020 https://web.archive.org/web/20200606052217/https://www.trost.at/16-17-phantom-limb.html live (LP, Trost) 2021: Gyatso (vinyl version)https://www.discogs.com/de/release/17534788 16-17 - Gyatso Discogs remastered 12" LP, Praxis, Berlin References External links artist mn0001021201/biography 28376-16-17 discogs.com savagelandrecords.com Category:Grindcore musical groups Category:Avant-garde metal musical groups Category:Free improvisation ensembles Category:Musical groups established in 1983 Category:Musical groups disestablished in 2000 Category:Swiss musical trios Category:Avant-garde jazz ensembles Category:Digital Hardcore Music Group